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@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 12:35 PM) and honestly since i mostly do mentoring when i play in wildstar, i tend not to get very much renown from that, becuase you literally get like 1 point per mob and you need thousands for anything even cheaper items.
@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 12:22 PM) wildstar i mostly only earn renown. anything i can buy with plat i pay cash for if i want it. more or less. but then i don't worry about spending time farming and just focus on having derp mode funsies
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 11:09 AM) Generally I like to collect things or explore. So Eve did that okay. I just felt like I needed a crafting alt to really make use of the tasty things I gathered scanning.
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 11:05 AM) You don't earn anything really in GW2. You just buy it or get lucky. Most games have some sort of reward or progress. Eve might be a bad example because I didn't always feel rewarded. I loved scanning down sites but that took time and didn't always reward me.
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:58 AM) Well those games also put stuff in the game you want. Anet is all "it goes in the store for 10 bucks BUY IT!"
@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 10:55 AM) where as gw2... it feels like nice in ways that are harder to articulate. more predatory. especialyl with how they fuck with drop rates etc
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:55 AM) Maybe if you could sell the items or gems directly to players without Anet playing the middle man. Like I'd much rather the token system many games have.
@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 10:55 AM) in eve i can spend $20 on a plex and i'll have plenty of left over for what i do by the time i'm done, while earning a plex easily takes a much bigger investment to do. but then plex and credd both allow me to skip farming to focus on doing the stuff i like
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:54 AM) And I lied a bit, it's more like 35g a month. So you know almost 2 dollars!
@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 10:53 AM) to be fair generally in other cash to gold models the value both ways tends to be much more equitable.
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:48 AM) Yes, $1.25 per 100 gems.
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:48 AM) A month of playtime for me, is worth 1 dollar and 25 cents. This is why you should never have a gold to cash value in your game. It just devalues my playtime to the point I think "Well this is worthless waste of time."
@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 10:47 AM) and 400 gems is $5 right?
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:46 AM) Right now it's 26 for 100 gems. I get that in a month of playing. XD
@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 10:45 AM) it's always been more time cost effective to get a job at mcd's for 10 hours a week and spend the income on gems than actually farming the gold in game. and that was when gem to gold rates were really low.
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:40 AM) In before "buy it off the AH", since that's these people's solutions to everything. Farm a path it'll take you over an hour and only awards 1.5g unless it Arah! Becuase 1 gold an hour is worth my play time right?
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:39 AM) I still think 50 bucks for an expansion is overpriced though. But that sums up anet. Who think secretly charing 30+ dollars or more for a single weapon skin to people who love gamble boxes is a fair price.
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:38 AM) But I got like 6 months of play time and met some horrible people... so I guess that's worth the first 10, and the the other 20 I spent... or 30 forget.
@  Coyote : (01 September 2015 - 10:37 AM) Yeah it's f2p. Anet is dumb. Makes me wonder why I bought it for the sale.
@  dirtyklingon : (01 September 2015 - 10:15 AM) i swear to god they could be canadian politicians.

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