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@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 11:53 AM) And finding cheap prebuilt options is a bit tricky.
@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 11:52 AM) Nah I'd pay cash for it. I have the cash for it, but it would really hinder my plans to do that.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 11:11 AM) was actually a steam box branding shit even tho it didn't come with steam os lol.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 11:11 AM) actually talked a friend out of doing that with alienware box that was severely overpriced. it dashed his dream of breaking in to pc gaming but he was already getting the run around from dell on it and it was stupidly specced fro teh price i didn't think he'd be happy with it. so he got an xbox instead which as much as i'd love to game with him on pc i think he'll be happier long term with that decision than that alienware pos.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 11:10 AM) getting a pc on a financing plan is generally a bad idea tho. you'd be paying for it long after replacing parts ogf it you're still paying for.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 11:09 AM) only one or two stores offer financing on computers in canada, and one of them only serves prairie provinces and alberta.
@  AionTemplar : (19 January 2017 - 10:56 AM) don't you need a payment plan?
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:53 AM) yeah gtao is like that. ssd doesn't help at all with loading. seems to help with in game streaming. with div helps both load times and in game content streaming tho which is nice.
@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 10:49 AM) I don't mind slower load times. I think it be great for Photoshop because that's a nyerk to load, but I think it's because of all the cloud calls it does. Eff me that thing is slow and stupid.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:47 AM) assuming that sleep works with your motherboard. i think mine has issues with it iirc.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:47 AM) i mean sleep boots just as fast with saved memory states and minimal impact on battery/power consumption so there's that caveat too imo.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:47 AM) i also personally don't care if windows takes 20s to boot instead of 7 so ... and that's teh bigest selling point fans of them promote.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:46 AM) don't get me wrongi love having my currenut ssd for longer loading mmo's when it actually helps with them. but for alot of games it doesn't do anything at all really.
@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 10:46 AM) But it's also something I can upgrade to later.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:45 AM) they're much better price per gb and better longievity /failrates than years past but they're still a luxury item.
@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 10:42 AM) I think a 250gb is pretty close to the same price of a 1tb drive. And I can make do with that much space using external devices for long term storage.
@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 10:41 AM) I thought about an ssd, because the prices aren't too bad now. And I'm pretty gentle on hard drive space. Plus I have a memory stick and an external drive for long term storage for stuff like art.
@  AionTemplar : (19 January 2017 - 10:40 AM) aren't they a lot cheaper nowadays anyway?
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:39 AM) the benefits can be nice but they're not as extreme as ssd evangelist salesmen make them out to be - and i've used ssd's for the past 7 years.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:38 AM) ssd's are nice but i disagree they're a must have.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:38 AM) ssd might be too much of a luxury for her budget/needs.
@  AionTemplar : (19 January 2017 - 10:37 AM) Coyote how about a SSD?
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:36 AM) yeah GL coyote. would be more cost effective to get your existing pc back than buy and build a new one :P
@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 10:35 AM) Failing that I'll see if his uncle will do it, because it'll be cheaper than buying a new pc. Would cost me about 250 with duty, taxes, and ups standard shipping.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:35 AM) i don't think it has anything to do with yu and asulike's hate memes.
@  Coyote : (19 January 2017 - 10:34 AM) All the hard drives are crap unless you fork out cash for s good one. And I made sure it was 7200, but not buying anything just yet. Trying to convince Ryan to price th packages via ups standard and then send them cod, or upon safe delivery I'll wire him the cash.
@  AionTemplar : (19 January 2017 - 10:32 AM) cause of Seven, Zalia and Blackvelvet?
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:31 AM) i don't thinka nyone here plays aion anymore templar :P
@  AionTemplar : (19 January 2017 - 10:30 AM) anyone know where I can exchange bloodmarks for ancient coins and/or blood medals
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:24 AM) i was gonna get toshiba for my next hdd which is supposedly one of the better brands rn.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:24 AM) seagate is bad i've been told even tho i have one that has lasted 7 years but may be failing rather than my mobo (which my mobo has always had problems too tho). wd is only good on the high end but their mdi and low end shit sucks and their higher end shit is overpriced.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:23 AM) not sure. the store listing will include the socket type in teh product name.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 10:09 AM) seagate or western digital are the 2 best ones i think
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 10:08 AM) make sure the hdd has 7200 rpm and not 5400
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 10:08 AM) 6100 needs z170 right
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:03 AM) for coyotes budget i'd go with i3, cheaper chipset mobo hdd or cheap but good quality ssd cheaper ram and 1060.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:02 AM) depends on if you just game or not and what games you play. and your budget.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:02 AM) i almost recomend against the rx480 due to issues with it's electrical profile beind beyond atx spec standards. they sort of fixed it but it's not that great a fix.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 10:01 AM) wouldn't it be better to save up and buy an i5 7600k, ssd + hdd, gtx 1060, 16gb ram, 650w psu, and evo 212 or scythe mugen cooler and not worry about anything for few years whereafter you'll need to buy a new video card :D
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:01 AM) amd also going after arm too which seems unlikely to do well all things considered.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 10:01 AM) oh i thougth you were talking amd. intel idk what their plans are. they just seem focused on ppw as is nvidia but nvidia making big gains. amd scored a big hit by convincing the dx12/vulkan people to incorporate and unused part of their silicon that was until then useless. but nvidia won't sit back and let them have that advantage for long
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:59 AM) eh zencore was supposed to be out last summer, but delayed into this year at some point. been waiting to se it a while. but they've been leaking performanc edetails for like 2 years now but it feels like more of the same overselling via leaks and their tech site shill friends.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:58 AM) or was that nvidia and not intel ... hmmmm
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:58 AM) they said they will do 5 alterations of the new technology even though they could just pump out the best one right now, but then there wouldn't be any new for half a decade while they research and develop and ofc to get more money out of it
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:57 AM) which the last time i did comparisons which migth be posted on this forum somewhere are years old but still relevant as amd just doesn't have anything since really (and the compared low end chips are discountined anyway afaik, and deffo tech dead ends).
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:56 AM) intel chips have stagnated for the most part in performance gains because amd has been way behind without improving for such a long time. so intel has gotten lazy on that area and just been pushing performanc eper watt instead.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:55 AM) naw those are just amd fanboys/apologists. i know non tech savvy people who have come to dislike amd after buying budget tear amd machines over the past few years.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:55 AM) not worth to upgrade 6700k to 7700k but if you don't have 6700k then its best to go to 7700k instead of 6700k
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:55 AM) 7 series is lackluster, but it's still better and it comes out at the same price of the ones last year
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:54 AM) which rumour suggest certain things but the problem with taking those rumours/leaks/etc seriously is amd has oversold every single new product for the past 7 years that way and then heavily underdelivered on them.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:54 AM) (i don't have any low end amd/intel, i only buy the i7 x700K whenever i upgrade) but just heard many ppl say if you go low end, better go amd
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:54 AM) amd hasn't had a new chip in the wild in years. we';re waiting on zen core to come out this year (delayed) which they are supposed to close the gap by fixing funademtnal issues like lower IPC. but probably still won't beat intel.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:53 AM) 7 series's barely fains on 6 series from intel. if one costs more between them go witht eh cheaper. 7 series is pretty lacklustre.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:52 AM) but their new top ryzen is outperforming a 1000 dollar intel chip in multitasking :o
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:52 AM) and that one chip that beats older i3's in cpu reliant games is their most expensive chip as well as their hottest and most power consuming.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:51 AM) and also better onboard video (6100 vs 7100 i mean)
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:51 AM) amd is literally pissing your money away in every segment for the past few years now. it's really bad and part of why they've been bleeding marketshare like crazy despite massive viral marketting efforts.
@  deekayzero : (19 January 2017 - 09:50 AM) disney no it's not. amd only has one chip that beats older i3's when cpu matters in games in real life scenarios. which is the case for most mmo genre games.
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:50 AM) on ncix.com
@  Divinelysian : (19 January 2017 - 09:50 AM) i3 6100 150 can $ i3 7100 170 can $

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