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amnd ryzen is an improvemnt, but stil underdelivers


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#1 hans_gruber

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 09:22 AM

http://www.hardwarec...nce-review.html

 

 

it is really a big improvement in key areas where amd cpu's were incredibly weak against even older and lower end intel chips. but as sure as a bear shits in teh woods it was all too predictible that amd's in house benches to sell preorders of the chips were the most overly favourable to themselves in ways that don't quite pan out in more useful or cpu heavy game applications and tasks.

 

throw in that ryzen sees the return of archaic old school ram compatbility considerations that will be a major shocker to anyone who started buildin their own PCs after say 2006 and it ends up being a bit of a headshaker.

 

and while TDP and PPW have improved measuably over the fx line up's terrible metrics in these areas, they still do pretty poorly vs even older  intel offerings at load.

 

 

in anycase this may have more than just amd fanboys considering amd as a viable alternative to intel once more, or once in the wild it might prove to further erode consumer confidence in teh AMD brand in ways that weren't evident in past product's launch reviews and only showed themselves once in teh wild (see bulldozer).

 

 

one of the big hype for this cpu they show in particular is it's perforamcen per dollar vs intel's $1k chips, but in most widely used scenarios it's more likely to compete with and underperform against intel's much cheaper and more comparable if not cheaper in price chips.

 

 

 

so unless you wanna spend $700 to have a bit faster hand brake conversions, you're still probably best to spend your cpu money on intel - especially if you play games that depend heavily on strong cpu power like mmorpg's and other open world games.



#2 Divinelysian

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 04:06 AM

Aka, overhyped. Again. 


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#3 hans_gruber

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:04 AM

yep pretty much.

 

starting to see amd shills start trying to rationlize it as being worthwhile for gaming just like with their fx chips. pretty sad.



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Posted 12 March 2017 - 06:14 AM

But for the price it's pretty good, atleast for multitasking  / editting + streaming etc   due to the 8 cores, but for gaming yeah, some i5's even beat it 


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 10:01 AM

the streaming angle (as well as video editing in most scenarios) is silly tbqh.

 

for streaming you can use on gpu board encoding which is gonna be alot better than this as if current streamign tech was taxing much cheaper cpu's as it is. and you'll still get shit game performance for your stream on top of that. so that's moot.

 

ofr video editing if you're doing games again, shit game performance and screen cap software has klong been bottlenecked by drive i/o and not cpu anyway. yes that includes fraps despite what haters claim erroneously. and really for typical youtube video length a good cheaper intel chip is gonna render nearly as fast anyway.

 

the multitasking argument was always silly back in the bulldozer days to begin with as dual core intel cpus' from 7 years ago multitask flawlessly with heavy app usage already. it'

s such an odd and silly argument to make.

 

what this is good for is running vm's and some specific niche scenarios in enterprise. and anything that involves heavy ram speed dependency is completely off the table

 

nut theyhyped it for gaming instead which is hilarious, so enterprise probably aren't even looking at this.

 

and the benches where it really shines are such oddities because those tasks already go really fast with alot of work done on much older much cheaper intel chips to begin with.



#6 Divinelysian

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:30 PM

New ryzens are interesting though, if only to lit a fire under intel's ass


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